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	<title>Comments on: Ten reasons why Symfony rocks &#8211; Part 2</title>
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		<title>By: Kenneth van Rumste</title>
		<link>http://www.mellowmorning.com/2007/09/08/ten-reasons-why-symfony-rocks-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-7326</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenneth van Rumste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 09:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any idea how it&#039;s possible to get the i18n:extract to search class files too? In the Symfony, we still find: Unfortunately, the i18n:extract task does not yet parse form classes for untranslated strings. This is a huge problem... anyone an idea?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any idea how it&#8217;s possible to get the i18n:extract to search class files too? In the Symfony, we still find: Unfortunately, the i18n:extract task does not yet parse form classes for untranslated strings. This is a huge problem&#8230; anyone an idea?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.mellowmorning.com/2007/09/08/ten-reasons-why-symfony-rocks-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-5641</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 13:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, thanks for sharing!</description>
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		<title>By: Daily Digest for 2008-08-28 &#124; Pedro Trindade</title>
		<link>http://www.mellowmorning.com/2007/09/08/ten-reasons-why-symfony-rocks-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-5505</link>
		<dc:creator>Daily Digest for 2008-08-28 &#124; Pedro Trindade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mellow Morning » Ten reasons why Symfony rocks - Part 2 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mellow Morning &#187; Django vs Symfony</title>
		<link>http://www.mellowmorning.com/2007/09/08/ten-reasons-why-symfony-rocks-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-5490</link>
		<dc:creator>Mellow Morning &#187; Django vs Symfony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 07:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you can see from the posts (one, two) I&#8217;ve always been a big Symfony fan. Symfony is really great, but my current favourite is [...]</description>
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		<title>By: tschellenbach</title>
		<link>http://www.mellowmorning.com/2007/09/08/ten-reasons-why-symfony-rocks-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4797</link>
		<dc:creator>tschellenbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fixed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fixed</p>
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		<title>By: scrivner</title>
		<link>http://www.mellowmorning.com/2007/09/08/ten-reasons-why-symfony-rocks-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4068</link>
		<dc:creator>scrivner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice reasons :D Symfony 1.0 Rocks! And Symfony 1.1 will rocks even more!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice reasons :D Symfony 1.0 Rocks! And Symfony 1.1 will rocks even more!</p>
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		<title>By: Mellow Morning &#187; Introducing a cross site ajax plugin for Prototype</title>
		<link>http://www.mellowmorning.com/2007/09/08/ten-reasons-why-symfony-rocks-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-401</link>
		<dc:creator>Mellow Morning &#187; Introducing a cross site ajax plugin for Prototype</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ajax was my main reason to choose the prototype framework. Furthermore it is also included in the great Symfony framework. In Prototype Ajax requests are written like [...]</description>
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		<title>By: tschellenbach</title>
		<link>http://www.mellowmorning.com/2007/09/08/ten-reasons-why-symfony-rocks-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>tschellenbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 08:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone know of a good plug in to fix Wordpress code handling behaviour for comments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone know of a good plug in to fix Wordpress code handling behaviour for comments?</p>
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		<title>By: hardrock</title>
		<link>http://www.mellowmorning.com/2007/09/08/ten-reasons-why-symfony-rocks-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>hardrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 08:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently my code lines have been partly erased. That should have meant:

content ?&gt;

and

content ?&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently my code lines have been partly erased. That should have meant:</p>
<p>content ?&gt;</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>content ?&gt;</p>
<p>(dots indicating inexistant spaces)</p>
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		<title>By: hardrock</title>
		<link>http://www.mellowmorning.com/2007/09/08/ten-reasons-why-symfony-rocks-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>hardrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 08:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to dgurba:

Assuming that you have an object &quot;article&quot; with the property &quot;content&quot; (which was the case in your Rails example, but not in the symfony example) you would write just the very same in PHP:

#source: http://www.symfony-project.com/tutorial/1_0/my-first-project/content ?&gt;

PHP offers this short syntax, although it may not be enabled on all configurations. And writing

content ?&gt;

isn&#039;t any longer, especially if you use code completion (which any good editor should have).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to dgurba:</p>
<p>Assuming that you have an object &#8220;article&#8221; with the property &#8220;content&#8221; (which was the case in your Rails example, but not in the symfony example) you would write just the very same in PHP:</p>
<p>#source: <a href="http://www.symfony-project.com/tutorial/1_0/my-first-project/content" rel="nofollow">http://www.symfony-project.com/tutorial/1_0/my-first-project/content</a> ?&gt;</p>
<p>PHP offers this short syntax, although it may not be enabled on all configurations. And writing</p>
<p>content ?&gt;</p>
<p>isn&#8217;t any longer, especially if you use code completion (which any good editor should have).</p>
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		<title>By: rpsblog.com &#187; A week of symfony #37 (10-&#38;gt;16 September 2007)</title>
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		<dc:creator>rpsblog.com &#187; A week of symfony #37 (10-&#38;gt;16 September 2007)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ten reasons why Symfony rocks - Part 2 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: superhaggis</title>
		<link>http://www.mellowmorning.com/2007/09/08/ten-reasons-why-symfony-rocks-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>superhaggis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 09:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The blog ate part of my reply - drop in your two code examples from Symfony and Rails.</description>
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		<title>By: superhaggis</title>
		<link>http://www.mellowmorning.com/2007/09/08/ten-reasons-why-symfony-rocks-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>superhaggis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 09:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@dgurba

getRaw(’sf_content’) ?&gt; is the placeholder for the entire template that is to be decorated with the application&#039;s layout (see layout.php);  would give you the value of the &#039;content&#039; property for the &#039;article&#039; object.

What you meant to say was getContent() ?&gt;, which you would place in your template and setup via your action (using Symfony&#039;s default ORM - Propel).

You clearly haven&#039;t used Symfony if you are making fundamental mistakes like that, so you should refrain from passing comment on it until you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dgurba</p>
<p>getRaw(’sf_content’) ?&gt; is the placeholder for the entire template that is to be decorated with the application&#8217;s layout (see layout.php);  would give you the value of the &#8216;content&#8217; property for the &#8216;article&#8217; object.</p>
<p>What you meant to say was getContent() ?&gt;, which you would place in your template and setup via your action (using Symfony&#8217;s default ORM &#8211; Propel).</p>
<p>You clearly haven&#8217;t used Symfony if you are making fundamental mistakes like that, so you should refrain from passing comment on it until you do.</p>
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		<title>By: dgurba</title>
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		<dc:creator>dgurba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 04:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll bite.

Wouldn&#039;t symphony be rails competitor since rails came first? Since when does symphony lead the pack?

It just doesn&#039;t rock as much.

I&#039;d rather *write* this (and not use some generator):
#source:&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.railsjitsu.com/blog/ruby-on-rails/using-fragment-caching-in-rails/&quot; onclick=&quot;return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.railsjitsu.com/blog&lt;wbr&gt;&lt;/wbr&gt;/ruby-on-rails/using-fragment&lt;wbr&gt;&lt;/wbr&gt;-caching-in-rails/ &lt;/a&gt;
&lt;%= article.content %&gt;

Then this:
# source: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.symfony-project.com/tutorial/1_0/my-first-project&quot; onclick=&quot;return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.symfony-project.com&lt;wbr&gt;&lt;/wbr&gt;/tutorial/1_0/my-first-project&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;?php echo $sf_data-&gt;getRaw(&#039;sf_content&#039;) ?&gt;

The first is terse and to the point and I can maintain it easily … without language boilerplate syntax mucking up the works.
why does php recommend no short_tags ... jsp, asp, php and rails use short tag religiously ... please don&#039;t make me type more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll bite.</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t symphony be rails competitor since rails came first? Since when does symphony lead the pack?</p>
<p>It just doesn&#8217;t rock as much.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather *write* this (and not use some generator):<br />
#source:<a href="http://www.railsjitsu.com/blog/ruby-on-rails/using-fragment-caching-in-rails/" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.railsjitsu.com/blog" rel="nofollow">http://www.railsjitsu.com/blog</a><wbr></wbr>/ruby-on-rails/using-fragment<wbr></wbr>-caching-in-rails/<br />
&lt;%= article.content %&gt;</p>
<p>Then this:<br />
# source: <a href="http://www.symfony-project.com/tutorial/1_0/my-first-project" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.symfony-project.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.symfony-project.com</a><wbr></wbr>/tutorial/1_0/my-first-project<br />
&lt;?php echo $sf_data-&gt;getRaw(&#8217;sf_content&#8217;) ?&gt;</p>
<p>The first is terse and to the point and I can maintain it easily … without language boilerplate syntax mucking up the works.<br />
why does php recommend no short_tags &#8230; jsp, asp, php and rails use short tag religiously &#8230; please don&#8217;t make me type more.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Roy</title>
		<link>http://www.mellowmorning.com/2007/09/08/ten-reasons-why-symfony-rocks-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 09:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A bit more on performance. At the recent Symfony Camp Fabien Potencier spoke at length about the major refactoring in progress for version 1.1 and 2.0. While he would only promise V2.0 &quot;when it&#039;s done&quot;, he said he was expecting a 4 to 5 times performance increase for Symfony 2.0.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bit more on performance. At the recent Symfony Camp Fabien Potencier spoke at length about the major refactoring in progress for version 1.1 and 2.0. While he would only promise V2.0 &#8220;when it&#8217;s done&#8221;, he said he was expecting a 4 to 5 times performance increase for Symfony 2.0.</p>
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